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🌈 Lance Trottier 🌈's avatar

I wrote an article on the "We are Jane Doe" and "I am Jane Doe".

As a man, I stand firm that women do not want men to "protect" them. They want men to stand beside them. They want men to stop being assholes and abusing them.

Francis McInerney's avatar

It is a mistake to call these weirdos "men". They are not. They are males, yes, but they never matured, grew up and graduated to manhood. No man would be even slightly interested in raping a woman. The problem for women is that the man graduation rate is really low. The percent that make it, if I had to guess, might be 20%.

Lorraine Alden's avatar

Two years ago, I was interested to read that Project 2025 included the goal of eliminating online porn and a ban on such websites. Have not seen a damn thing about that, you pinch-nosed, picayune, bloodless Heritage Foundation types.

JC Andrijeski | Jules D'Or's avatar

Honestly, I think the assumptive premise is wrong. It never once occurred to me to believe that men truly think women want this. They know we DON'T want it. That's 100% the appeal. They are taking something that would be denied them if consent was involved. Increasingly, I think the subset of men that needs to be interrogated isn't the one "confused" by what women want, but the increasingly large subset that hates women and derives their entertainment from torturing and degrading them, particularly when it comes to sex, which they view as being "unfairly" withheld from them by women who shouldn't get to have any opinion whatsoever about what is done to their bodies.

Lorraine Alden's avatar

It's become obvious that the solution cannot be found in reforming men: we must harden women. Pubescent girls should take instruction not only about their biology but also assertiveness training and self-defense techniques. Adult women should marshal themselves to watch over each other in all social situations, whether it's running in a park or attending a party. Check-in's on the phone, having a wing-woman, and going out in small groups need to become the norm, as should pursuing active physical defense techniques and even weapons training for concealed carry. We should stop giving males deference for the illusion that they are "protectors" when the few who are predators can do so much damage.

Kathleen Watkins's avatar

I don't think they care what women want - they only care what pleases themselves, never thinking beyond the moment. This is infantilism writ large in the manosphere.

Sharon Dymond's avatar

What do men think women want? That's an easy one: money. Ironically, I know this from having married two men who married me because they wanted me to support them while #1 sat around waiting for people to die and #2 sat around drinking himself to death.

Annette's avatar

Let's not forget: this is a frat hazing activity meant to create a shame bond between the participants.

Laurent's avatar

Great article, sad in content but so important.

Being in a relationship with my beloved partner for nearly 10 years, I can’t begin to tell you how many transformation of love I went through. I am a completely different man now than I was before, and this is a natural process that occur when a man actually love a women and decide to try to meet her, day after day, after month, after year. The relationship gets deeper, and the deeper it gets, the more intimacy there is.

Today I am on my knee, humble by life itself for giving me the chance to be able to share complete vulnerability, openness and intimacy with another human being, and for having the chance to meet with love and the unbelievable pain and joy that comes with it.

She’s everything to me.

How endlessly pitiful and ignorant are the degraded males of this sad movement of Power through Penis, or whatever else they come up with. They can’t tell me they ever met love.

They can’t tell me they are men either.

What they are is the result of denial of their true nature, and the manufacturing of an image of power to try to hold on. So wasteful.