As a practicing Catholic for 68 years I was very impressed with Pope Francis’ work to steer the church slowly toward the mainstream. Back to the principles of Jesus’ love thy neighbor as thyself, and other simple principles of faith. The Opus D. crowd worried the Pope. Now that he’s gone I worry they may try to fix the conclave so they vote in a hard right pope. Then where would that leave the billions of normal Catholics?
These are latter day Savanarolas. He hired Florentine boys to spy on people, report their so called sins, especially those of the flesh, so he could blackmail them and bend them to his will. Just what MAGA would like to do now and much like Castro’s security services did in Cuba.
Savonarola’s burning at the stake, together with his acolytes, should make his current day disciples think twice.
As an ex catholic Pope Francis almost made me want to return, but I couldn’t bring myself, however one thing I took away from this pope was he was a kind and decent human and I hope that his legacy will continue🙄
“ ‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.' " - Leviticus 19:33-34 NIV
Yeah, what He said ^^^. Rightwing Catholics don't read their own books. And J.D. Vance is a man of God? What a theological dope.
“Confronted with the abuse of economic power, with the cruelty of capitalism that degrades man into merchandise, we have begun to see more clearly the dangers of wealth and we understand in a new way what Jesus intended in warning us about wealth.”
I sure hope that we don’t get an arrogant,backward looking,fire & brimstone preaching,hellfire breathing,hair shirt wearing,self flagellating pompous pope. We have more than enough in the US Congress right now. There is so much hate and division in the USA and internationally. We need a leader who will be a unifying force and who is merciful & compassionate,someone who will help the church and the world grow in the love and light of Jesus Christ.AMDG
Was told by someone years ago that folks will money to priest. Most folks do not know the backgrounds of their parish priest. Knew one that came from country club set and another retired from finance while another was a Dad who became priest after wife died. Not poor men. All nice guys.
Pope Frank has been ill a long time. He courageously worked for good as long as he was able; a good long life. Maybe the face-to-face meeting with eye mascara wearing agent of death pushed him over the edge or maybe the Kabuki Hillbilly touched him with a microdot nerve agent, since we’re immagining possibilities. Doesn’t matter: Francis’ last message was show up & do your job.
Thank you for this post. Many do not realize what is going on in the Church regarding the rise of hateful people within its ranks. That is why was NOT HAPPY when Vance and Owen’s became Catholics.
Why would be summarily dismiss the fact that Vance saw the Pope, apparently after exerting pressure that seeing his 2nd would not do, and hours later the Pope has a massive stroke and heart attack? This is exactly what the Trump regime banks on, that we overly polite and decorum observant people won’t dare to seriously suggest it. If tables were turned and it was a democratic VP, people would already be burning at the stake, literally, for killing the Pope. And sadly, that’s why the right wing keeps winning. Almost 100% of what the right accuses the left of, is projection, something they’ve already done, are doing, or plan to do. There is nothing these people will stop at, no bottom in their evil souls.
Oy vegh! As a semi-lapsed Catholic with deep family ties to NYC Jesuits & those Holy Cross guys in South Bend I can say I heard it first from Nina that Pope Frank is dead and I'm about as disoriented as that sparrow that flew in through in open window in our house yesterday after church. Here's what I wrote earlier this morning, not knowing my favorite Pope has passed: Techbro Mystics Want Your Life and Your Money - Apocalypse as K Mart - Blue Light Special <> It's evident that stakeholder capitalism &/or private equity aligned with still hanging on and doing well, medieval religious hegemonic ideology is managing to not just support but sanctify monopolies, at least well enough to boost their ratings on teevee. They're building the madness of crowds into sufficient mercenary force to leverage the cash and fascist dominance needed to burn up the biosphere and most of humanity as propulsion fuel in their elitist rush towards Godhead. It fits with Peter Thiel's Rene Girard / P. Teilhard de Chardin mystic/scientist world views and Elon Musk's fascination with Christ-like spaceman paradigm shifting characters. <> Mark Burnett has been operating as an Elmer Gantry-like showman, having boosted a loser drug addict, serial bankruptcy expert into the 45th & 47th presidencies of The USA. Leonard Leo as the Rasputin-like marcher for oligopolists has transformed the SCOTUS in more ways than weakening tax law and democracy. In the long march of private capital's resurgence after FDR and the liberal consensus, Calvinist and medieval Roman Catholic ideology merged into The Federalist Society, Marble Fund,, The Heritage Foundation, et al. They're running a bad, long episode of a Jerry Springer show turned into a Lord of The Flies riot. <> Pope Francis excommunicated Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, a former papal nuncio to the United States, for schism last July. Vigano, through The Catholic Information Center in DC had been in league with real fascist ideology loving mercenary officers in Vatican prelatures for the USA Catholic Church: Leonard Leo, a for real Knight of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, 5 of 6 conservative SCOTUS judges & Bill Barr, members of Opus Dei, Amy C. Barret, a hybrid of the above from People of Praise. They are part of the brains and generals running the war on democracy and decency. The Red state bible belt Evangelicals have plenty of influence in the fascist mercenary think tanks and lobbying firms and they stay busy with their norms molding Christian academies, state legislature & public school board take overs, NASCAR & the whole universe of militant tribal identity bound cultist who've fallen prey to QAnon weirdos & hate radios jocks. Pope Frank could just boot out Vigano. Democracy defenders have the hard and long task of helping enough persuadable former Trump voters to rally enough support for recall elections and replace the bought off punks in Congress with mature and ethical adults who can restore and strengthen democracy before it's too late. Trump/Vance, & the radical right federal judges who’ve given 47 permission to break down democracy should all be impeached and removed. A lot of them should be prosecuted and imprisoned for treason.
As a practicing Catholic for 68 years I was very impressed with Pope Francis’ work to steer the church slowly toward the mainstream. Back to the principles of Jesus’ love thy neighbor as thyself, and other simple principles of faith. The Opus D. crowd worried the Pope. Now that he’s gone I worry they may try to fix the conclave so they vote in a hard right pope. Then where would that leave the billions of normal Catholics?
I’m also interested in how the next pope is going to affect the attitude of the faithful when it comes anything political
This country needs to take a lesson from the history of Savonarola and have a big fire for these crazies.
OK, I’m only suggesting that metaphorically and not actually burning in flames while binder to a wooden stake.
Nevertheless, freedom and sanity are at stake with these crazies and as many found out during the Middle Ages, maybe our lives.
These are latter day Savanarolas. He hired Florentine boys to spy on people, report their so called sins, especially those of the flesh, so he could blackmail them and bend them to his will. Just what MAGA would like to do now and much like Castro’s security services did in Cuba.
Savonarola’s burning at the stake, together with his acolytes, should make his current day disciples think twice.
JD Vance murdered Pope Francis.i wonder if the CIA supplied him with something to use.
JD Vance murdered Pope Francis.i wonder if the CIA supplied him with something to use.
JD Vance murdered Pope Francis.i wonder if the CIA supplied him with something to use.
JD Vance murdered Pope Francis.i wonder if the CIA supplied him with something to use.
JD Vance murdered Pope Francis.i wonder if the CIA supplied him with something to use.
As an ex catholic Pope Francis almost made me want to return, but I couldn’t bring myself, however one thing I took away from this pope was he was a kind and decent human and I hope that his legacy will continue🙄
“ ‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.' " - Leviticus 19:33-34 NIV
Yeah, what He said ^^^. Rightwing Catholics don't read their own books. And J.D. Vance is a man of God? What a theological dope.
Francis is with Jesus, they won't be ⬇️
“Confronted with the abuse of economic power, with the cruelty of capitalism that degrades man into merchandise, we have begun to see more clearly the dangers of wealth and we understand in a new way what Jesus intended in warning us about wealth.”
—Benedict XVI in his book Jesus of Nazareth
Ha!
I think they’ll break their teeth on that!
Has any of these guys ever read a book?
I sure hope that we don’t get an arrogant,backward looking,fire & brimstone preaching,hellfire breathing,hair shirt wearing,self flagellating pompous pope. We have more than enough in the US Congress right now. There is so much hate and division in the USA and internationally. We need a leader who will be a unifying force and who is merciful & compassionate,someone who will help the church and the world grow in the love and light of Jesus Christ.AMDG
How on earth do ANY Catholic Priests become wealthy? I thought their pay is supposedly architectured to scarcely cover living expenses.
Was told by someone years ago that folks will money to priest. Most folks do not know the backgrounds of their parish priest. Knew one that came from country club set and another retired from finance while another was a Dad who became priest after wife died. Not poor men. All nice guys.
Meeting vance would be enough to challenge anyones will to live.
Pope Frank has been ill a long time. He courageously worked for good as long as he was able; a good long life. Maybe the face-to-face meeting with eye mascara wearing agent of death pushed him over the edge or maybe the Kabuki Hillbilly touched him with a microdot nerve agent, since we’re immagining possibilities. Doesn’t matter: Francis’ last message was show up & do your job.
Uuggghhh. You are probably right.
Thank you for this post. Many do not realize what is going on in the Church regarding the rise of hateful people within its ranks. That is why was NOT HAPPY when Vance and Owen’s became Catholics.
Why would be summarily dismiss the fact that Vance saw the Pope, apparently after exerting pressure that seeing his 2nd would not do, and hours later the Pope has a massive stroke and heart attack? This is exactly what the Trump regime banks on, that we overly polite and decorum observant people won’t dare to seriously suggest it. If tables were turned and it was a democratic VP, people would already be burning at the stake, literally, for killing the Pope. And sadly, that’s why the right wing keeps winning. Almost 100% of what the right accuses the left of, is projection, something they’ve already done, are doing, or plan to do. There is nothing these people will stop at, no bottom in their evil souls.
And the fact Drump immediately wrote on truth (false) social that jdv had zero to do with the Pope dying…
Oy vegh! As a semi-lapsed Catholic with deep family ties to NYC Jesuits & those Holy Cross guys in South Bend I can say I heard it first from Nina that Pope Frank is dead and I'm about as disoriented as that sparrow that flew in through in open window in our house yesterday after church. Here's what I wrote earlier this morning, not knowing my favorite Pope has passed: Techbro Mystics Want Your Life and Your Money - Apocalypse as K Mart - Blue Light Special <> It's evident that stakeholder capitalism &/or private equity aligned with still hanging on and doing well, medieval religious hegemonic ideology is managing to not just support but sanctify monopolies, at least well enough to boost their ratings on teevee. They're building the madness of crowds into sufficient mercenary force to leverage the cash and fascist dominance needed to burn up the biosphere and most of humanity as propulsion fuel in their elitist rush towards Godhead. It fits with Peter Thiel's Rene Girard / P. Teilhard de Chardin mystic/scientist world views and Elon Musk's fascination with Christ-like spaceman paradigm shifting characters. <> Mark Burnett has been operating as an Elmer Gantry-like showman, having boosted a loser drug addict, serial bankruptcy expert into the 45th & 47th presidencies of The USA. Leonard Leo as the Rasputin-like marcher for oligopolists has transformed the SCOTUS in more ways than weakening tax law and democracy. In the long march of private capital's resurgence after FDR and the liberal consensus, Calvinist and medieval Roman Catholic ideology merged into The Federalist Society, Marble Fund,, The Heritage Foundation, et al. They're running a bad, long episode of a Jerry Springer show turned into a Lord of The Flies riot. <> Pope Francis excommunicated Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, a former papal nuncio to the United States, for schism last July. Vigano, through The Catholic Information Center in DC had been in league with real fascist ideology loving mercenary officers in Vatican prelatures for the USA Catholic Church: Leonard Leo, a for real Knight of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, 5 of 6 conservative SCOTUS judges & Bill Barr, members of Opus Dei, Amy C. Barret, a hybrid of the above from People of Praise. They are part of the brains and generals running the war on democracy and decency. The Red state bible belt Evangelicals have plenty of influence in the fascist mercenary think tanks and lobbying firms and they stay busy with their norms molding Christian academies, state legislature & public school board take overs, NASCAR & the whole universe of militant tribal identity bound cultist who've fallen prey to QAnon weirdos & hate radios jocks. Pope Frank could just boot out Vigano. Democracy defenders have the hard and long task of helping enough persuadable former Trump voters to rally enough support for recall elections and replace the bought off punks in Congress with mature and ethical adults who can restore and strengthen democracy before it's too late. Trump/Vance, & the radical right federal judges who’ve given 47 permission to break down democracy should all be impeached and removed. A lot of them should be prosecuted and imprisoned for treason.
The Catholic Church is a criminal organization. Pope Trump would be a fine spiritual leader.
GOOD LUCK!