Yes, this has been bothering me too. I'm so glad you have opened this perspective on Epstein and misogyny in the world in general. The extremes of Epstein's world are echoed in women's experiences everywhere.
Pimp to the monied and powerful. The misogyny is just gob smacking. I really hope these bastards get what they deserve- more than just a resignation here and there. They should be pariahs, never allowed anywhere near the levers of corporate or government power. I don't care what their professed political persuasion is. They should suffer in all ways possible. All of them.
Unfortunately I am very aware of how much men (and many women) hate women. It feels like constant, low-level abuse, especially in the United States (I notice it more after living in other countries for many years). It's amazing women are as relatively mentally healthy as they are, as a group.
Sexism is a thing everywhere, yes. Men do not DISLIKE women everywhere, or dislike femininity, everywhere, at least not the way they do in the United States. There was a whole study on this, and it absolutely matches my lived experience. The problem in the United States feels different, frankly. I'm not sure why it's different, but it definitely feels different to be in a place where men seem to actually like women as people compared to here. Repressed homosexuality? Ammosexuality? I have no idea of the cause, but it does feel different. The United States isn't alone in its dislike of women, but I feel it tangibly here. I don't have time to look for the study, but I remember the light bulb going off for me when I read this article, not long after I spent a few months in France, where I had a very different experience interacting with strange men than I generally do in the United States: https://celestemdavis.substack.com/p/men-who-like-women
Of course I wouldn't argue with your lived experience at all but objectively in France we have had the Pélicot case. 90 x M.tous le Monde raping a woman while she was deliberately drugged.
I'm absolutely not saying there aren't horrible, predatory, misogynistic men in France, not at all! I'm just saying that the tangible feeling of being disliked even while someone is trying to convince you to sleep with them (or only speaking to you at all if they want sex / something else from you) isn't the same. Men talked to me in France quite often who wanted absolutely nothing from me, and treated me like a human being. That happens in the United States too, of course, but in my experience it is much more rare, and the culture supports it much less, and the overall feeling of what is "normal" relations between men and women in the day to day is different. But yes, unfortunately, violent, misogynistic men and the systems that support and enable them are everywhere. I didn't mean to imply in any way that they aren't. It's only that one element I was talking about - the homoerotic nature of men's culture in America, where many MANY men dislike everything about femininity itself, and only interact with women reluctantly because they want sex (and resent that they went to all the trouble to pretend to "like" a woman and then didn't get sex from their efforts - the "nice guy" syndrome). They are trained very young to be terrified of being labeled "feminine" in any way, so it's really no wonder they have nothing but revulsion for that quality in anyone.
Thanks! I really appreciate that. And I didn't mean to minimize your experience in France or anywhere else in any way. I know sexism and misogyny are rampant everywhere, unfortunately. It just takes slightly different forms. :(
Nina, you are the first person I have read that has addressed the real horrors of their misogyny and cruelty. It must have been so difficult for you to read these tragic stories. Thank you for your relentless work and dedication to truth. Perhaps if your words come out, we will eventually have the truth exposed and these tormented girls and women will have some justice.
Very well said. I will make sure to keep this post. That's because you spelled out the anti-female dislike and hatred so accurately.
I especially appreciate how you documented Epstein's verbal patterns, repeatedly degrading the girls and young women lured into his pimping scheme. It is very revealing of so many situations.
I'm glad Nina broached this point. Too many writeers and commentators throw around the word "pedophile" because of the emotional horror of that word. But pedophilia is a clinical term for a serious mental illness depicting attraction to prepubescent children, while exploitation of troubled, vulnerable young women is a moral illness, whether or not the victim has reached some legally designated age of "majority."
"She is a constant presence in released DOJ documents, appearing more than 130,000 times and coordinating everything from investment opportunities to meetings with Yale University professors."
NY Times:
Federal Authorities Mapped Out Epstein’s Inner Circle
Only one person depicted or referred to in the chart as a potential co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell, was ever charged with helping Mr. Epstein engage in sex trafficking.
A diagram that mapped Jeffrey Epstein’s inner circle was among the documents released by the Justice Department on Friday.Credit...Department of Justice
Matthew GoldsteinBy Matthew Goldstein
Jan. 30, 2026
Federal authorities created a diagram of Jeffrey Epstein’s inner circle, at least several of whom authorities considered to be potential co-conspirators, according to a document released on Friday.
The document featured photos and names of a number of well-known people in Mr. Epstein’s orbit, including his convicted accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell; his lawyer Darren Indyke; his accountant Richard Kahn; his financial adviser Harry Beller; his longtime assistant Lesley Groff; and Jean-Luc Brunel, who died by suicide in a French jail after being charged with rape.
The names and faces of several other people, described as Mr. Epstein’s employees or girlfriends, were redacted in the document.
Of all the people depicted or referred to in the chart, only Ms. Maxwell was ever charged with helping Mr. Epstein engage in the sex trafficking of teenage girls. But the photo montage shows that at least around the time of Mr. Epstein’s arrest and death in 2019, federal authorities were looking into a wider array of potential co-conspirators.
Three people whose photos were not redacted, Mr. Indyke, Mr. Kahn and Mr. Beller, were some of Mr. Epstein’s closest employees. Mr. Indyke and Mr. Kahn currently serve as the co-executors of Mr. Epstein’s estate. They and Mr. Beller, whose name is misspelled in the document, were involved in the inner workings of Mr. Epstein’s finances. The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which has been investigating the government’s handling of the investigations into Mr. Epstein, has announced plans to depose Mr. Indyke and Mr. Kahn.
Lawyers for Mr. Indyke, Mr. Kahn and Ms. Groff were not immediately available for comment on Friday. A lawyer for Mr. Beller had no immediate comment.
The document also listed several of Mr. Epstein’s other employees and associates, including his pilots and Leslie Wexner, the billionaire retail magnate, who for years was Mr. Epstein’s most important financial benefactor. There is no indication in the document that federal authorities considered those men to be among Mr. Epstein’s co-conspirators.
I have been thinking the same all along and was disappointed to not see anyone say it like you have. THANK YOU!!
Women are commodities to them, not human. They disgust me. I look at most men now and wonder how many are just barely faking their existence beyond what their penis is telling them to do? I used to think some men were evil and I could tell which were good easily, now I think the opposite: most are likely not good and it’s hard to really tell which ones are good. I know many men aren’t happy about women feeling like this, but it’s up to them to call out the bad guys for us (especially when women aren’t in the room) and see if they can convince us they’re good. The presumption of innocence is over. Clearly they shouldn’t have had it before based on the Epstein files, and all the men in France who raped Ms Pelicot, and the men in Ukraine raping women in war, and etc.. when other men are around there’s no crime if they just “take her.”
This is a hugely important discussion - the systematic abuse of women even if they are technically adults. Epstein and his wide circle of associates didn't care much about age - or some did, but many didn't. The exploitation was the common element.
"He may even have countenanced violence". I agree with everything you analyse here, but this was and is total violence. At a very mature age I have finally realised this is how men come to run the world even though they don't know how the washing machine works: it's all violence, potential, threatened, complicit, stealing, bystanders, not having our backs for fear of annoying some alpha. I've been on the receiving end of some of it and blamed the individuals, but it's a system and now I know it.
Yes, this has been bothering me too. I'm so glad you have opened this perspective on Epstein and misogyny in the world in general. The extremes of Epstein's world are echoed in women's experiences everywhere.
Pimp to the monied and powerful. The misogyny is just gob smacking. I really hope these bastards get what they deserve- more than just a resignation here and there. They should be pariahs, never allowed anywhere near the levers of corporate or government power. I don't care what their professed political persuasion is. They should suffer in all ways possible. All of them.
Unfortunately I am very aware of how much men (and many women) hate women. It feels like constant, low-level abuse, especially in the United States (I notice it more after living in other countries for many years). It's amazing women are as relatively mentally healthy as they are, as a group.
I don't know which other countries you've lived in but I'd like to go to one where this isn't a thing
Sexism is a thing everywhere, yes. Men do not DISLIKE women everywhere, or dislike femininity, everywhere, at least not the way they do in the United States. There was a whole study on this, and it absolutely matches my lived experience. The problem in the United States feels different, frankly. I'm not sure why it's different, but it definitely feels different to be in a place where men seem to actually like women as people compared to here. Repressed homosexuality? Ammosexuality? I have no idea of the cause, but it does feel different. The United States isn't alone in its dislike of women, but I feel it tangibly here. I don't have time to look for the study, but I remember the light bulb going off for me when I read this article, not long after I spent a few months in France, where I had a very different experience interacting with strange men than I generally do in the United States: https://celestemdavis.substack.com/p/men-who-like-women
Of course I wouldn't argue with your lived experience at all but objectively in France we have had the Pélicot case. 90 x M.tous le Monde raping a woman while she was deliberately drugged.
I'm absolutely not saying there aren't horrible, predatory, misogynistic men in France, not at all! I'm just saying that the tangible feeling of being disliked even while someone is trying to convince you to sleep with them (or only speaking to you at all if they want sex / something else from you) isn't the same. Men talked to me in France quite often who wanted absolutely nothing from me, and treated me like a human being. That happens in the United States too, of course, but in my experience it is much more rare, and the culture supports it much less, and the overall feeling of what is "normal" relations between men and women in the day to day is different. But yes, unfortunately, violent, misogynistic men and the systems that support and enable them are everywhere. I didn't mean to imply in any way that they aren't. It's only that one element I was talking about - the homoerotic nature of men's culture in America, where many MANY men dislike everything about femininity itself, and only interact with women reluctantly because they want sex (and resent that they went to all the trouble to pretend to "like" a woman and then didn't get sex from their efforts - the "nice guy" syndrome). They are trained very young to be terrified of being labeled "feminine" in any way, so it's really no wonder they have nothing but revulsion for that quality in anyone.
Your experience sounds dreadful and I fully believe what you say.
Thanks! I really appreciate that. And I didn't mean to minimize your experience in France or anywhere else in any way. I know sexism and misogyny are rampant everywhere, unfortunately. It just takes slightly different forms. :(
Ouch. So right on. So painfully right on.
Nina, you are the first person I have read that has addressed the real horrors of their misogyny and cruelty. It must have been so difficult for you to read these tragic stories. Thank you for your relentless work and dedication to truth. Perhaps if your words come out, we will eventually have the truth exposed and these tormented girls and women will have some justice.
Very well said. I will make sure to keep this post. That's because you spelled out the anti-female dislike and hatred so accurately.
I especially appreciate how you documented Epstein's verbal patterns, repeatedly degrading the girls and young women lured into his pimping scheme. It is very revealing of so many situations.
I'm glad Nina broached this point. Too many writeers and commentators throw around the word "pedophile" because of the emotional horror of that word. But pedophilia is a clinical term for a serious mental illness depicting attraction to prepubescent children, while exploitation of troubled, vulnerable young women is a moral illness, whether or not the victim has reached some legally designated age of "majority."
Nina -
Gracias! for reseaching this sick shite so we don't have to. It discloses beyond a doubt what sick fks we are dealing with.
You are a true and brave pioneer.
- paul in mx
Hideous, monstrous ugly monsters were behind this cult that destroyed thousands of lies.
Lesley Groff was mentioned hundreds of thousands of times in "The Epstein Files" according to the Advocate. https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/lesley-groff-epstein-doj-files-new-canaan-ct-21347088.php
"She is a constant presence in released DOJ documents, appearing more than 130,000 times and coordinating everything from investment opportunities to meetings with Yale University professors."
NY Times:
Federal Authorities Mapped Out Epstein’s Inner Circle
Only one person depicted or referred to in the chart as a potential co-conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell, was ever charged with helping Mr. Epstein engage in sex trafficking.
https://i.imgur.com/5NHOa4I.jpeg
A diagram that mapped Jeffrey Epstein’s inner circle was among the documents released by the Justice Department on Friday.Credit...Department of Justice
Matthew GoldsteinBy Matthew Goldstein
Jan. 30, 2026
Federal authorities created a diagram of Jeffrey Epstein’s inner circle, at least several of whom authorities considered to be potential co-conspirators, according to a document released on Friday.
The document featured photos and names of a number of well-known people in Mr. Epstein’s orbit, including his convicted accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell; his lawyer Darren Indyke; his accountant Richard Kahn; his financial adviser Harry Beller; his longtime assistant Lesley Groff; and Jean-Luc Brunel, who died by suicide in a French jail after being charged with rape.
The names and faces of several other people, described as Mr. Epstein’s employees or girlfriends, were redacted in the document.
Of all the people depicted or referred to in the chart, only Ms. Maxwell was ever charged with helping Mr. Epstein engage in the sex trafficking of teenage girls. But the photo montage shows that at least around the time of Mr. Epstein’s arrest and death in 2019, federal authorities were looking into a wider array of potential co-conspirators.
Three people whose photos were not redacted, Mr. Indyke, Mr. Kahn and Mr. Beller, were some of Mr. Epstein’s closest employees. Mr. Indyke and Mr. Kahn currently serve as the co-executors of Mr. Epstein’s estate. They and Mr. Beller, whose name is misspelled in the document, were involved in the inner workings of Mr. Epstein’s finances. The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which has been investigating the government’s handling of the investigations into Mr. Epstein, has announced plans to depose Mr. Indyke and Mr. Kahn.
Lawyers for Mr. Indyke, Mr. Kahn and Ms. Groff were not immediately available for comment on Friday. A lawyer for Mr. Beller had no immediate comment.
The document also listed several of Mr. Epstein’s other employees and associates, including his pilots and Leslie Wexner, the billionaire retail magnate, who for years was Mr. Epstein’s most important financial benefactor. There is no indication in the document that federal authorities considered those men to be among Mr. Epstein’s co-conspirators.
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I have been thinking the same all along and was disappointed to not see anyone say it like you have. THANK YOU!!
Women are commodities to them, not human. They disgust me. I look at most men now and wonder how many are just barely faking their existence beyond what their penis is telling them to do? I used to think some men were evil and I could tell which were good easily, now I think the opposite: most are likely not good and it’s hard to really tell which ones are good. I know many men aren’t happy about women feeling like this, but it’s up to them to call out the bad guys for us (especially when women aren’t in the room) and see if they can convince us they’re good. The presumption of innocence is over. Clearly they shouldn’t have had it before based on the Epstein files, and all the men in France who raped Ms Pelicot, and the men in Ukraine raping women in war, and etc.. when other men are around there’s no crime if they just “take her.”
This is a hugely important discussion - the systematic abuse of women even if they are technically adults. Epstein and his wide circle of associates didn't care much about age - or some did, but many didn't. The exploitation was the common element.
"He may even have countenanced violence". I agree with everything you analyse here, but this was and is total violence. At a very mature age I have finally realised this is how men come to run the world even though they don't know how the washing machine works: it's all violence, potential, threatened, complicit, stealing, bystanders, not having our backs for fear of annoying some alpha. I've been on the receiving end of some of it and blamed the individuals, but it's a system and now I know it.
CAPITALISM Can’t Function Without Misogyny - It’s Built In.
Wow, until now I was avoiding this painful aspect of the files. Thank you Nina for having the strength to research and share your work.