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I read the New Yorker article about the Tates. They are irredeemable. That the young sapling member of the grifter all star family admires them says a lot about the values he learned at home. It is sad that too many young men admire degradation of women. That will make them unlovable to the women they may pine for. Or the men they may pine for.

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I am so very sad

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